Thanks Spyder. Looking for clarification on one aspect that you've been working with someone else on this morning. I have one or two simple goals with the tool.

1. Create ALiVE compatible groups for factions that are not completely done, like gref.
2. Give units from some of the opfor packs rhs weaponry, because imho it operates and sounds better, and because I want to consolidate the types of ammo I need to make available in missions.

I have been able to access the tool, edit/create units, groups, and factions. However when I attempt to load, I get errors about base unit class inheritance, and the game crashes. I am missing something fundamental, and request help on understanding the steps. Thank you.

Stated differently in previous thread:

Following the steps in the wiki, I have created a new faction. Basically I took Massi's navy seals and created a single alive compatible group for them, just as a test. I closely followed the step where if you want to inherit units from a faction, you basically need to copy it as a first step, copy the units, and work from there. I did that.

It's all packed up in a little addon pbo thingy, too. Now, when I try to load the game with the mod, it is throwing errors saying that base classes of massi's units are not defined. Here is the link to my config . Why is it not working?

Yes. I created my own faction. Unfortunately, you can't create UNITS for that faction without inheriting from a unit that already exists in a different one.

There is no option to create a new unit without inheritance of another, that I can see. I went ahead and generated a class name and saved that unit, as is. Here is the code it generates for that particular unit (keep in mind I understand that I must generate ALL the code for the faction, group and unit... this is just an example)

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Config Automatically Generated by ALiVE ORBAT Creator
// Generated with Arma 3 version 162.137494 on Stable branch
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

class EventHandlers;
class CBA_Extended_EventHandlers_base;

class CfgVehicles {

    class B_mas_usd_Soldier_F;

    class B_masusadeltaalive_Rifleman_01 : B_mas_usd_Soldier_F {
        author = "HA M. Buchanan";
        displayName = "Rifleman";
        side = 1;
        faction = "mas_usa_delta_alive";


        uniformClass = "U_mas_usd_B_CombatUniform_mcam";
        backpack = "B_mas_Kitbag_mul";

        linkedItems[] = { "ItemMap" , "ItemCompass" , "ItemWatch" , "ItemRadio" , "ItemGPS" , "NVGoggles_mas_18" , "Binocular" , "V_mas_usd_PlateCarrier1_rgr" , "H_mas_usn_helmet_ops_sf_z" , "G_mas_wpn_wrap_t" };
        weapons[] = { "arifle_mas_m4vlt_t" , "hgun_mas_m23_l_F" , "Binocular" , "Throw" , "Put" };

        respawnLinkedItems[] = { "ItemMap" , "ItemCompass" , "ItemWatch" , "ItemRadio" , "ItemGPS" , "NVGoggles_mas_18" , "Binocular" , "V_mas_usd_PlateCarrier1_rgr" , "H_mas_usn_helmet_ops_sf_z" , "G_mas_wpn_wrap_t" };
        respawnWeapons[] = { "arifle_mas_m4vlt_t" , "hgun_mas_m23_l_F" , "Binocular" , "Throw" , "Put" };

        class EventHandlers : EventHandlers {
            class CBA_Extended_EventHandlers: CBA_Extended_EventHandlers_base {};

            class ALiVE_orbatCreator {
                init = "_unit = (_this select 0);removeAllPrimaryWeaponItems _unit;{_unit removeSecondaryWeaponItem _x} foreach (secondaryWeaponItems _unit);removeAllHandgunItems _unit;{_unit removeItem _x} foreach (uniformItems _unit + vestItems _unit + backpackItems _unit);for '_i' from 1 to 2 do {_unit addItemToUniform 'FirstAidKit';};_unit addItemToUniform 'muzzle_mas_snds_M';_unit addItemToUniform 'muzzle_mas_snds_L';_unit addItemToUniform 'acc_flashlight';for '_i' from 1 to 3 do {_unit addItemToUniform '30Rnd_mas_556x45sd_Stanag';};_unit addItemToUniform 'Chemlight_green';_unit addItemToUniform 'Chemlight_blue';for '_i' from 1 to 2 do {_unit addItemToVest '30Rnd_mas_556x45_Stanag';};for '_i' from 1 to 2 do {_unit addItemToVest '30Rnd_mas_556x45_T_Stanag';};for '_i' from 1 to 2 do {_unit addItemToVest '12Rnd_mas_45acp_Mag';};for '_i' from 1 to 2 do {_unit addItemToVest 'SmokeShell';};for '_i' from 1 to 2 do {_unit addItemToVest 'HandGrenade';};_unit addItemToVest 'B_IR_Grenade';_unit spawn {sleep 0.1;_unit = _this;};_unit addPrimaryWeaponItem 'acc_mas_pointer_IR_top';_unit addPrimaryWeaponItem 'optic_mas_acog_eo';_unit addHandgunItem 'acc_mas_flash_gun';_unit addHandgunItem 'optic_mas_MRD';";
            };

        };

        // custom attributes (do not delete)
        ALiVE_orbatCreator_owned = 1;

    };

};

So when I go to load the game, it is saying that I have not defined the parent class of my custom unit. I can see that at the top, just under cfgVehicles, the error is correct. I do not understand how to bypass this.

Yes, I believe so. That was my thought too... Shouldn't it be able to inherit if the class exists in game in any other mod?

Just to clarify, by changing this units class name and pulling it into my custom faction... I am in essence making a custom unit and not editing the original from Massi's mod, right?

Also I completely understand the need for the inheritance, I'm not trying to steal anything or run without the mods that deserve credit. I just want to change a few things and work on alive compatibility! That's all lol.

ErrorMessage: File Users\Matt\Downloads\@testMod\addons\test\autogen.hpp, line 1356: /CfgVehicles.B_mas_usn_soldier_Mh_F_rec_dn: Undefined base class 'B_mas_usn_soldier_Mh_F_rec_d'

links to screenshots of the errors:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3C_3wXtjPi2QkJ4d2hHMDVoNms/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3C_3wXtjPi2ZFVzLTVVcTlpQmc/view?usp=sharing

Here is the link to the raw text

Here is the gist.

However... I made a video of my last attempt with the intent of showing you what was wrong... and it worked lol. I'm not sure what I did differently. All the same, I'll post the video up so you can tell me all the things I did that don't meet best practices, lol.

It should be live on YouTube shortly.

I appreciate you thinking it was your tool, but probably not man. It did it to me twice. So unless I'm just Han Solo lucky, it was something I was messing up. One thing I did differently the time it worked was not mess with equipment... would that potentially make things different?

My video is long and boring but if you could skip through and tell me if I've got the concept down that'd be great. In return, if I do, I'll make a much much higher quality tutorial video and send it in for the dev teams approval before I post it up. I do that video thing

Heh well... I dunno. I'm gonna keep messing with it and see if I can do the RHS weapons. I'll take video in case I run into something. Thanks again.

@HeroesandvillainsOS  I mean. If you're recording videos anyway while doing this, do you feel like making a beginner's tutorial?

I just... might not be the best guy for that as I literally just started playing ArmA the day apex came out. There's a saying in the service about there being nothing worse than an instructor who teaches you the wrong way to do things.

All the same, I'll record everything, and when I have enough for a tutorial I'll put a draft together and people can help me make sure all is done correctly. Once it's good, I'll post it up, sure! You can look at the link I already put up... it's raw footage though, so load times and stuff aren't clipped.

Well, if someone sees a bunch of posts by me, please Admin, delete them. No posts are showing for me for some reason.
Here is a link to the autogen.hpp for my Pacific Pirates.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4CmmU0JFMEkRkFRN2tWcVIwTUU/view?usp=sharing

@ski2060 Test post?

lol